all the debt ceiling is paying our bills. the cow is out of barn. let's allow us to let any business would do which is pay your bills. >> neil: why is wall street not worried about this. all your worries were trumpeted, why is the street not worried? >> i think we have learned to live in this environment. the reality is we have accepted what appears to be kick the can down the street politics. >> neil: what would you and your fellow ceos do and have a credible debt fix, you probably would have a heart attack, but what would you do? >> it would allow us to feel more secure where we're going. we need to know the rules of the game. that is what we're asking for. i think we as citizens and not business people first. the reality is we know the problems, debt and immigration and reality as a nation when we compete against nation states, how are we going to compete if we can't solve these problems? the issue is not the debt ceiling. the issue is the fundamental core problems of the country and the inability of our congressional leaders and our political cl